Get behind your keeper

Iron Bru Forums Blast Furnace Get behind your keeper

  • Author
    Posts
  • #306769
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: May 8, 2017
    Topics: 152

    Have faith in Butler’s vision and insight. Learned as he went along last season and he got us over the line. Back Maison and give him a psychological boost:

    Butler reveals three-player ‘shopping list’ as summer business nears completion

    3 users thanked author for this post.
    #306770
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: September 18, 2023
    Topics: 299

    Good luck young un. Go for it!

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #306771
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: May 8, 2017
    Topics: 152

    Ray Clemence once told me that a great goalkeeper is 90% confidence if they have the basics. Maison has the basics and more.

    #306772
    SideriteSiderite
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 12, 2014
    Topics: 92

    I have my deep concerns, but getting behind him is all we can do. After all, one know-it-all was saying anyone thinking last season could be a promotion were living in dreamland and look at how that turned out.

    3 users thanked author for this post.
    #306773
    ironkingironking
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: October 8, 2014
    Topics: 89

    Maison did himself no favours with dodgy handling in his performances v Newcastle Town and Warrington Rylands.

    The last two seasons we have watched games knowing that our keeper was capable of saving us, once the defence was breached.

    Our keeper bred confidence in the crowd as well as the team.

    Rory Watson was a good keeper who did not command his box, and unsettled the crowd as well as his defence. Or maybe they unsettled him.

    Andy Butler tells the lad not to read social media and has a keeper on his shopping list.
    There is a clear message in those two statements

    If Mr B does start the season without an experienced keeper and it does not go well, then it will ignite calls for a managerial change, because everybody knows that an experienced senior keeper is needed including Mr B.

    #306774
    cassidystashcassidystash
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: January 4, 2014
    Topics: 122

    Andy Butler tells the lad not to read social media and has a keeper on his shopping list.There is a clear message in those two statements

    What is clear is that we can’t start the season with only one keeper and Maison must know that.

    “Rory Watson was a good keeper”
    No he wasn’t.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #306775
    AwaywegoAwaywego
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: June 20, 2017
    Topics: 178

    And his stats prove it.

    #306777
    Iron-aweIron-awe
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: June 21, 2017
    Topics: 13

    Not getting behind Campbell would just be negative and counter productive to the team’s chances to do well well this season, the guy deserves his chance after biding his time behind Fitz, back Campbell back Butler and as always back the team.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #306779
    lesgeolesgeo
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 25, 2013
    Topics: 107

    I do agree but I get really nervous about these things – probably a touch of old fartitude.
    The matter that bothers me most is that we have known for such a very long time that we would need to bring in a G/K of quality – irrespective of whether or not he is first in line or a back up.
    Pro teams have to have two GKs capable of keeping goal well.
    What I can’t understand is that in all of this time we haven’t uncovered a suitable man to sign.
    I do really want Campbell to succeed but that is not enough. We have been relegated from the NL – we need total professionalism in all parts of the team.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #306780
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: January 3, 2014
    Topics: 69

    Andre Onana?

    #306781
    lesgeolesgeo
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 25, 2013
    Topics: 107

    Under contract at Man Utd til 2028. Would have to be a loan AND surely they would expect him to be the Number One keeper.

    #306782
    BigLeftToeBigLeftToe
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: June 6, 2017
    Topics: 9

    So we must get behind Maison who, in my opinion anyway, has shown he is nowhere near ready to be our no.1 keeper in the NL…but someone like Beck can be written off the day he walks through the door and to be labelled “Banjo” for the rest of his days?

    We need a second keeper, that is a fact, and it needs to be someone better than what we currently have.

    #306784
    TheJuryeffsOutTheJuryeffsOut
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: April 1, 2023
    Topics: 12

    It’s the easiest thing in the world now to say get an experienced keeper. If he isn’t good enough you can say “I told you so” and if he is good enough you can say “Butler was lucky, he turned out ok”.
    I’m not going to write him off based on trophy matches and friendlies, has he ever played behind the same defence in any game for us ? It’s all makeshift and trialists every time.
    Give the lad a chance and some support.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #306785
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: May 8, 2017
    Topics: 152

    So we must get behind Maison who, in my opinion anyway, has shown he is nowhere near ready to be our no.1 keeper in the NL…but someone like Beck can be written off the day he walks through the door and to be labelled “Banjo” for the rest of his days?

    We need a second keeper, that is a fact, and it needs to be someone better than what we currently have.

    I didn’t write off Beck and still haven’t. Plenty did and have though.

    #306786
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 23, 2013
    Topics: 110

    I see our first choice keeper fumbled the ball for Cleethorpes second goal

    #306787
    AwaywegoAwaywego
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: June 20, 2017
    Topics: 178

    After todays performance im sure at least 95% who went want an experienced goalie, 10 mins in high ball comes in he goes for it, went through his fingers most thought an experienced goalie would have saved the first, then the second what a calamity, devoid of confidence.
    Not has though the crowd didn’t try to get behind him and everyone wants him to do well but no matter what we want on today’s showing he wouldn’t get in the cleggy goal but will ours.
    Crowd asking their goalie if he wants to play for us, numerous shouts telling Butler we need a goalie, no more than 30secs to go and an Almighty shout.
    Quite pleased with most of the new intake especially Eze, Simmons or Simmonds look half decent on one half showing.

    #306788
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 27, 2013
    Topics: 97

    Look, just lets tell the truth about Campbell. No way in a million years is he ready. We could all join arms and chant Campbell in unison and he still will not be good enough.

    Looked shaky as well today. Campbell didn’t look great in the others either. Sorry, but if we go with him to start the season, we’re in deep trouble.

    People are already shouting it from the stands. If Butler hasn’t realised even by this early stage that he was wrong, he must be watching games blindfolded and must be wearing earplugs.

    As I said above, he’s nowhere near and even needs a few seasons out on loan to develop to even be an effective no 2, never mind a number 1.

    Miles and miles off it. Looks a bag of nerves, indecisive and as dodgy as hell. Put it this way, Rory Watson was shaky but Campbell is quite a bit worse than he was.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #306790
    ironkingironking
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: October 8, 2014
    Topics: 89

    There is a reason York let him go, and their assistant manager at the time was previously at Notts County as assistant. Rather oddly he did not rate Fitzsimmons at County, and Ross was not County first choice.

    The adage “you can’t polish a turd” springs to mind.

    #306791
    CMCCMC
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: July 14, 2022
    Topics: 38

    I see our first choice keeper fumbled the ball for Cleethorpes second goal

    Use your hotline to Matlock if they have any spare keepers

    #306792
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 23, 2013
    Topics: 110

    what hotline is that, I know nobody at Matlock, CMC

    #306793
    BigLeftToeBigLeftToe
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: June 6, 2017
    Topics: 9

    If he’s nervous and making howlers against lowly local teams in a friendly then god help him (and us!) when it comes to the opening day of the season.

    He just isn’t up to scratch. We wouldn’t play this gamble with any other position on the pitch so why is Butler doing it for arguably the most important!?

    #306794
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 27, 2013
    Topics: 97

    Butler stating publicly that Campbell was his no 1 hasn’t helped matters, as now because of that he’s somewhat backed himself into a corner. Butler should have kept his mouth shut and when asked about the GK, he should have glossed over it and not said anything.

    All he’s done has come out and publicly backed a player to be number one pick even though he’s nowhere near ready. I wish he thought more strategically at the time before coming out and speaking about Campbell before seeing first hand if he was actually even ready in pre season.

    Bigtoe, nervous is an understatement, looks jittery as anything and generally looks unsure of himself against part time players in pretty meaningless matches. I wouldn’t want to see how he’d react in front of a bumper crowd on match day.

    Looks bad enough this pre season. To put this into perspective, Campbell is the Tomi Ameobi of Goalkeepers. Not just isolated mistakes either, it’s match in match out and has gotten worse and worse as times gone on. Still got 5 pre season games yet to play.

    It’s absolute madness that Butler has allowed us to be in this mess without even seeing is Campbell is even up to it first. Crazy really when you think about it.

    Fingers crossed he comes to his senses.

    #306795
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: September 18, 2023
    Topics: 299

    Perhaps Stan’s hands are tied? The black piggy bank may be saying neigh.

    #306796
    lesgeolesgeo
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 25, 2013
    Topics: 107

    False economy.
    The more the team loses winnable games – the fewer fans will come through the gates. Fact.
    If there has been some great recruiting all over the pitch but there is one area of huge weakness – again, the fans will vote with their feet.

    #306797
    Iron-aweIron-awe
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: June 21, 2017
    Topics: 13

    Well seeing as he doesn’t read social media non of this drivel will effect him and if he wears ear plugs on match day it’s, ” what negative shouts, what crowd “, jobs a good un, carry on mate.

    #306799
    billpuntonsghostbillpuntonsghost
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: January 4, 2014
    Topics: 87

    It’s a shame Maisonette Campbell has been put in this situation (no.1 keeper)The management team are to blame and should reassess their stance.

    #306801
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: September 18, 2023
    Topics: 299

    The management team are to blame and should reassess their stance.

    Or, is it the Directorial team?

    Swann & WHAM left us as the Impecunious Iron.

    Budget or Bust?

    #306806
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: January 3, 2014
    Topics: 69

    Perhaps Stan’s hands are tied? The black piggy bank may be saying neigh.

    From AB’s comments on Connor Smith and Jack Muldoon I’d say that is the primary factor.

    And if Campbell’s confidence wasn’t already shot it will be if fans keep shouting out for Butler to get another keeper.

    #306809
    cassidystashcassidystash
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: January 4, 2014
    Topics: 122

    But starting the season with only one keeper isn’t an option, Campbell must see that.

    #306813
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: September 18, 2023
    Topics: 299

    I’m sure they’ll bring in another keeper before the big off.
    It’s probably most likely that he’ll be from the ‘bargain bucket dump bin’ to fit the budget?

  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.