January 14, 2021 at 5:59 pm #200865
You don’t give up do you well least it’s some entertainment are you joining up with the odd couple plus oneJanuary 14, 2021 at 8:36 pm #200880
It took them a grand total of two weeks to pivot from “great deal, great for both parties, take that remoaners!” to “the EU have stabbed us in the back!”
Talk of extra red tape and bureaucracy was dismissed as project fear. Switzerland are in the Single Market, we’re not, so the comparison is void.
Looks like something from The Beano.January 14, 2021 at 8:38 pm #200882
Too reputable. It’s from the Daily Mail.January 15, 2021 at 8:04 am #200898
But think of the opportunities!January 15, 2021 at 11:26 am #200905
“Total UK trade will nosedive by 13 per cent, according to the London School of Economics analysis, making a mockery of the government’s claims of a buccaneering “Global Britain” outside the bloc.”
But let’s be realistic here. Those LSE boffins don’t understand the economy as well as Bucks does.January 15, 2021 at 12:57 pm #200908GurnelistaParticipantOffline
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Correct. But it’s all worthwhile because there’s nothing as important as the nationality of an uncaught fish.January 15, 2021 at 1:12 pm #200914
It will be sorted when the Fishy ones are told whether to use a blue or black pen to fill in the red tape.January 15, 2021 at 1:21 pm #200917
I’ve heard that Williamson is urgently adding how to eat langoustine and lobster with your wonky carrots to the curriculum and end of year exams/continued assessment/peer reviewed assessment/Rashford levels once he has decided on the last day of term what this year’s test method will be. 12 hours notice should be OK.January 16, 2021 at 12:21 am #200941
‘But let’s be realistic here. Those LSE boffins don’t understand the economy as well as Bucks does.’
Easy one for Bucks this. Universities are over populated with lefties. It’s true, Phin told us as much…January 16, 2021 at 7:42 pm #201076
Heath follows dee says it allJanuary 17, 2021 at 10:41 am #201128
The problem with this Alex Paul chap is that he can’t see the opportunities and benefits that Brexit has created. He needs to think outside the box a bit more, like any business person worth his salt….January 17, 2021 at 1:44 pm #201154GurnelistaParticipantOffline
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Yes, the gestapo of Brussels no longer bother him. He has the freedom to choose whether to deal with customs, VAT and ‘red tape’… or to pack it all in.
He is no longer obliged to his business like he once was. He is a free man.January 18, 2021 at 3:57 pm #201216
Shellfish or selfish?
Shellfish lorries park up near 10 Downing Street amid Brexit “carnage”.January 18, 2021 at 6:56 pm #201224
Always somebody else’s fault with this lot. ‘Not filling in the right forms’ my a**e!
Is that why they’re compensating £23m? I thought we were supposed to be saving money being out of the EU not spending more?January 18, 2021 at 7:04 pm #201225
They’ll probably take that £23m out the Universal Credit or School Meals budget. Or the new impending and completely unnecessary austerity measures. This is why the Tories are perceived as nasty. The ‘have nots’ suffer for their incompetence and they wilfully push political motivated fiscal policy that hammers the poor.January 18, 2021 at 10:48 pm #201258
Great to be out of the EU and all of their bureaucracy and red tape!January 19, 2021 at 12:12 pm #201281BucksironParticipantOffline
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So that’s the level of debate and discussion, is it? A bunch of lefty remainers ranting on about anything and everything. The same bunch of lefty remainers coming out with the same stuff they always fall back on: nasty Tories, bashing the poor, Brexit disaster, you name it.
You really are a pathetic bunch. Why should anyone take any notice of the LSE or the ‘experts’? 99.9% of them were telling us the economy would fall off a cliff if the referendum vote was “leave”. It was and they were wrong. Not just a bit wrong but absolutely wrong. “The Tories are finished” we were told just months before delivering the greatest ever humiliation on a Labour opposition in an election that was effectively a second referendum.
The Government’s poured billions into the economy because of covid, not because there’s a ‘magic money tree’ but because it has no choice. Our grandchildren will still be paying for this when we’re all pushing up daisies. Any and every decision around Government support has to be looked at very carefully and the reason benefits get particular attention isn’t because the Tories “don’t care about the poor” but because welfare spending and the NHS dwarf everything else.
In the area where I now live the local communities are doing an amazing job supporting those who need it, from the elderly to the poor. Meanwhile the council’s more concerned with creating cycle ways that nobody uses but are very good at creating traffic jams, with cars idling and emergency vehicles unable to get through. You can’t take rubbish to the local tip unless you have papers that would make the Stasi look like amateurs. Still, they’ll continue to get their salaries and nice pensions while local businesses do what they can to survive and the local communities here do everything possible to support them.
As for the Scottish fishermen, what’s the betting that the problem here is down to endless forms they’ll now have to complete to ‘comply’ with EU regulations and numerous signatures from vets or health officials ‘checking’ the catch. French customs will be having a field day. Never mind common sense, just as long as the British learn their lesson. It’s also strange how many fishermen adapted to what happened to them after covid to find new markets and are now thriving despite everything while the Scottish fishermen appear to have done nothing to adapt either to covid or Brexit. That doesn’t mean I have no sympathy for them because I do, but it’s naive in the extreme not to wonder what’s really going on here. That Government compensation sounds very attractive.
Of course you’ll tell me I’m heartless, that I don’t care, etc, etc. Nothing could be further from the truth but that doesn’t matter to you, does it. In the Utopian world of the left you just tax the rich, let the state run everything and all will be well. Couldn’t be simpler, could it.January 19, 2021 at 12:23 pm #201286
Predictable response from the usual suspect. Yawn.
You truly are incapable of engaging with criticism honestly. Anyone who disagrees has to be dishonest, duplicitous and with an agenda. Just as anyone who disagrees with Trump is a liberal elitist out to slam him or anyone who disagrees with Corbyn a red Tory smear merchant.
Brexiters, Trump fans and Corbynites; three peas of the same pod.
There’s no point engaging with you, because you will not respond to criticism and just deem it as hysteria, since you cannot accept disagreement.January 19, 2021 at 12:32 pm #201290
Those forms were the inevitability of being outside the Single Market. We tried telling you, but all we got was ‘project fear’ and ‘they need us more than we need them, so will cave in to weakening their markets to suit us.’ They haven’t, and as such red tape is an inevitability. It is not about ‘punishing’ us, but ensuring their markets are integral. If they neglected such and allowed us to operate along Single Market terms it would render it useless, so they need extra paperwork for such.
Of course, none of this will matter to you, who will just damn this as some leftist out for socialist utopia (LOL!)*, while you make out anyone who disagrees with you is trying to portray you in an equally unfair light. You shameless hypocrite.**
The UK is now bottom of the G7 for economic growth. We have only just started outside the EU, so it’s too early to judge economic predictions. You told us there would be no border in Ireland, that trade would not be an issue and that the deal over fishing was great. A few weeks later and you pivot to save face.*** Why should we trust you then?
*Despite me not being some socialist.
**I expect this to turn into a self-pitying whine about how I am being like Gurnelista for calling you such, despite you straw manning me and attacking my values above. Anyone to the left of Reagan is seemingly the coming of Che Guevara, but leftists must take care in grouping conservatives, otherwise they’re displaying disregard for others. It’s always one way and not the other.
***A few weeks ago you mocked me for saying that Brexiters would turn against this deal once the ‘owning the libs’ over getting a deal would wear off. You said it was bitter. A few weeks later, here, you prove my point. I must admit I am impressed at how quick the turnaround is. I thought it would be maybe a year, but a matter of weeks is astonishing.January 19, 2021 at 1:22 pm #201295
Why should anyone take any notice of the LSE or the ‘experts’?
And you call others ignorant!January 19, 2021 at 6:09 pm #201308
The therapy is clearly not working.January 19, 2021 at 6:26 pm #201310
‘Our grandchildren will still be paying for this when we’re all pushing up daisies.’
They will if the Tories are in power yes. There’s absolutely no reason that a lot of the emergency Covid spending couldn’t be paid for by QE. In fact, some older Tories have admitted as much. I’ll dig out some articles that cover this in more detail and post them on a new thread so you and others can examine them Bucks.
If the majority of people in this country actually realised how much austerity is a political not financially necessary strategy they’d be marching on no,10.
‘In the area where I now live the local communities are doing an amazing job supporting those who need it, from the elderly to the poor. Meanwhile the council’s more concerned with creating cycle ways that nobody uses but are very good at creating traffic jams, with cars idling and emergency vehicles unable to get through’.
This attack on your local authority is nothing short of disgraceful Bucks, because I’m pretty sure you must know how much all councils are doing regarding emergency Covid measures. It’s great that local communities up and down the country are helping out because my goodness there isn’t enough additional funding being provided by Johnson and his circus to meet the additional needs brought on by Covid. If your council suddenly stopped addressing these needs you’d be noticing more than a few traffic jams and additional cycle lanes.
Your conceit knows no bounds!January 19, 2021 at 7:37 pm #201318
In an ever changing world few things stay the same. Notable exceptions are Bucksiron’s superciliousness, and his ability to fill a bingo card.January 19, 2021 at 7:49 pm #201320
The comments from Bucks prove he hasn’t got a fu**ing clue of the amount of Covid work Council’s are doing. On top of this they will be out there over the next few days and nights on flood protection duties.
If Johnson turns up next week with his waders on, I hope that he gets greeted with abuse and stones.January 19, 2021 at 8:52 pm #201323
Don’t forget he’s against cycle lanes because he’s also a climate change denialist.January 19, 2021 at 9:06 pm #201324
Perhaps BI’S local council had the same blackmail as Hull City Council had. The government would only release funding for three badly needed busy road refurbishments if they also installed cycle lanes on them. Local democracy indeed.January 19, 2021 at 9:20 pm #201326
Have you all ever thought bucks is winding you all up if not he’s doing a good job otherwise
Btw heath and Derdrie are an item isn’t that good newsJanuary 19, 2021 at 9:58 pm #201328
Have you ever thought??????January 19, 2021 at 10:02 pm #201329
Oh heath l love it when your angry don’t tell dee he might get jealousJanuary 19, 2021 at 10:22 pm #201330
You’re one ‘x’ short in your username. That is all.
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