Registered On: August 1, 2014
Hi BRI .. I wanted to make a more personal response to you but, with no other possibility, it will have to be public. I want to assure you that I have always found you reasoned and courteous and did not have any issue with your reply on that score. I was, in fact, a bit uncomfortable that I hadn’t made myself clear when I expressed disappointment and was getting round to coming back on when I saw your latest post. My disappointment was solely that you hadn’t asked me to give reasons as to why I leaned towards the Republicans. Certainly the Israel stuff was one of several factors and it was certainly not unreasonable, given our previous exchanges, for you to highlight that. It was simply because there were a number of other compelling reasons why I would have made that voting choice.
On a more general issue and for the wider ‘audience’ … I don’t think Siderite’s implied criticism of BI above really holds up as clearly as it might seem. I think it is reasonable to stand for freedom of speech and democratic principles and yet also to entertain the fact that it might be necessary to ‘draw a line.’ I think most mature societies wrestle with the dilemma of where to draw the line on what people are free to say and how they say it. With regard to this board I reckon 90% or more of my relatively few postings over the years have been calling for posters to steer away from personal insults, manipulative tactics and rushing to judgment. I don’t think I could be much clearer on this than my post above. I enjoy visiting this site but would enjoy it far more if some, and Gurney in particular, didn’t resort to mockery and, quite hypocritically in light of what he purports to stand for, manipulative tactics. The failure by other board members, other than one or two, to call this out and ‘clean it up’ by peer pressure is regrettable to me. As someone once said to me on one of my previous ‘lectures’ on this subject … ‘Well you could just ignore it!’ My answer to that is that it’s not actually possible to stay engaged and at the same time to resist the temptation to become embroiled in ugly ‘ego wars’ which is not my cuppa. Another suggestion is that ‘If you can’t stand the heat then get out of the kitchen!’ And that is actually what I do and will continue to do every time I dip in and find that same toxic strand still there. And that does diminish the potential of this board. Maybe I did have something to say on the Republican perspective which would have shed some light on why so many Americans voted as they did without coming across as ignorant, a right wing Christian, a bigot, shallow, sick or evil. But because of all of the above I’m not happy to explore that with you and I probably lose something in that choice … but the forum might have lost too.