Registered On: August 1, 2014
I thought I’d post to see if there was any semblance of mature discussion possible. I have resolved not to get into the tit for tat name calling and childishness which, despite his attempts to portray a persona of urbane sophistication and superiority, Gurney always resorts to with his ‘Justles’ and ‘ Jonnies’ and Doppelgangers. It shows the value he places on ‘otherness’. BRI I have always seen a more nuanced and humble response from you but was, I have to say, a bit disappointed that there was a presumption around the Israel stuff and no genuine question as to exactly why I said what I said. Gurney did ask that question .. but, sadly, in the context of making it quite clear that nothing I could say would make him shift from his position of utter contempt for me. Interestingly for Heath I was actually very conflicted on the Brexit issue and actually voted against in the referendum. It will be of some relief to Gurney, and not to disappoint him, I was then reasonably happy when I was on the losing side. The reason I can’t find a way to stay involved on the board is that there doesn’t appear to be sufficient humility and self awareness amongst the most vocal, though not all, of the contributors to realise that truth is actually quite a tentative thing and that most issues are more complex than they may appear. The name Trump is repeated so many times in responses … or more correctly reactions … to me yet I hoped to make clear by my wording that I would have voted Republican despite and not because of Trump. (Even as I write that I am cueing in the scorn at the possibility of such a position). If we could get past entrenched positions and protecting egos then maybe the pursuit of those elusive truths by respectful discussion would be a possibility. Surely that would be more satisfying than the echo chamber that will be the inevitable consequence of being so dismissive of and insulting towards voices of dissent. Where I sit is that there are some things that I know that I know. And the sum of what I really know is actually quite small .. especially when compared with what I don’t know. Now THAT is a vast ocean. And sitting with the limitations of what I am sure of won’t help me grow. But if I have the courage and humility .. and the willingness to embrace the discomfort or even the pain of allowing myself to be challenged at the deepest level .. without shrugging off the voices of ‘otherness’ as ‘right wing’ or ‘Jonnies‘ or ‘not worthy of a hearing‘.. then maybe I will get access to a part of that ocean of stuff that can help me. And some of that stuff may be carried by you for me .. and, who knows, maybe by me for you.